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New unchained loot

As is well known, the new unchained dungeons have a somewhat new-fangled loot system: bosses don’t drop loot directly; instead, they just drop caches (Unopened Chest = green; Acheronian Cache = blue; Mystical Acheronian Cache = purple), which then drop loot when you open them. The green caches are tradable, the blue and purple ones are bind-on-pickup. Purple caches drop very rarely and you mostly get them as quest rewards from completing the new quest from a poster at the beginning of unchained dungeons. (The quest is called Mastering the Old World and requires you to clear four unchained dungeons: Amphitheatre of Karutonia, Scorpion Cave, Caravan Raiders’ Hideout, and the Halls of Eternal Frost.)

In another departure from their usual practice, the devs posted pictures of all the new loot on the testlive forum some time ago. As we can see from that thread, among other things there are nine ‘new’ sets of armor — in terms of appearance, they are just copies of various existing sets (mostly from Xibaluku and the Amphitheatre of Karutonia), but they have new names and stats here. Each set consists of four purple parts (head, chest, hands, wrist) and four blue ones (legs, feet, belt, shoulder). In my experience, green caches don’t drop any of this armor; blue caches drop the blue parts and, very rarely, purple ones; purple caches drop only the purple ones.

What exactly can drop from those caches seems to depend on the class of the character on which you’re opening them. For example, among those nine armor sets, my guardian only gets two: Fallen Empire (plate) and Red Ruin (heavy). I wouldn’t be surprised if most non-soldier classes just got one set. Thus, you can’t really collect other sets than those which the system allows to drop for your class. From what I’ve heard, the non-unchained version of Caravan Raiders’ Hideout now also drops new sets with the same appearance but presumably worse stats, and doesn’t employ the new cache system, so it should be possible to collect sets there with any class you like; but I haven’t been there yet myself so I don’t know anything definite about this.

The Fallen Empire full-plate set

Anyway, after opening 36 purple caches and 56 blue ones, I finally completed one of the new armor sets, namely Fallen Empire:


As we can see, it looks exactly the same as the Acheronian Keeper set, i.e. guardian culture armor. The only difference is that culture armor sets lack wrists and shoulders, whereas the Fallen Empire set has all 8 parts.

In terms of stats, the purple parts of the set are pretty nice, comparable to Khitai faction sets or perhaps even slightly better. Too bad that only half of the set is purple.

I don’t have the complete heavy set (Red Ruin) yet, but it appears to be using the same models as full-plate armor from Xibaluku. (There also exists a heavy set in Xibaluku, but AFAIK none of the nine new unchained sets looks like it.) I like the Fallen Empire set better than Red Ruin, mostly because of its black color and golden sheen. Additionally, the helm from the Red Ruin set looks completely ugly, sort of like an Acheronian equivalent of a gimp mask.

I have long had a soft spot for Acheronian-style plate armor. I remember first seeing it in a screenshot of the guardian culture armor which was published by the devs some time before they launched the culture armor system (update 1.03); I was impressed by its menacingly bad-ass overall appearance, as well as by how revealing and non-platy it was. It is a common complaint against video games that they make female characters’ armor look unrealistically skimpy, but the armor that was available in Age of Conan at launch seemed to avoid this problem better than I would have expected. The full-plate armor that my guardian was wearing (from the Resolute and Steelspirit sets, especially the former) covered her up pretty thoroughly and made her look like a tin can. Compared to that, Acheronian-style plate was like a breath of fresh air.

But in the early months after culture armor was introduced, the recipes were so rare and the resulting items so expensive that I didn’t even think about buying any of it. A few months later, update 1.04 included Xibaluku, which had plenty of new Acheronian-style armor drops. This included several pieces of full-plate gear; I got myself a chest (Voidcage) and legs (Impenetrable Legguards), both of which were in fact small upgrades compared to what I was wearing before (probably the Steelspirit chest and Resolute legs), but what I liked even more was how much better my character looked wearing them πŸ˜› It was this discovery that set my previously demure guardian on a long road of wearing slutty plate armor. In any case, I’m glad that both styles of Acheronian plate armor have now become more widely available as a result of the new unchained loot system.

The Red Ruin heavy set

I was plagued by bad luck when farming this set; it took me about 5 months to get the chest piece (after opening 134 blue and 111 purple caches; meanwhile I got most of the other parts of the set multiple times, of course).

The main problem with this heavy set is of course the helmet, which makes you look like Hannibal Lecter’s more dangerous and less well-adjusted cousin:


Having zoomed in and checked carefully, I think I can safely say that there are no holes for the eyes whatsoever. Let’s hope the helmet is well-padded as you’re going to bang into a lot of things if you wear it πŸ˜›

If you get rid of the helmet and the belt (the latter seems to have been pilfered from a semi-retired wrestling hero), you’re left with a pretty decent-looking set of slutplate armor, though I think I still prefer the Fallen Empire / Acheronian Keeper set. The shiny black color makes that set look much more badass and menacing, as you would expect from an Acheronian set. You can almost hear the screams of victims on the altars as you walk around wearing it πŸ˜›

Much like the other “new” unchained armor sets, the models of this set are anything but new. It’s the same as the full-plate set from Xibaluku (Voidcage (chest), Impenetrable Legguards, Nescient Helm, Warlord’s Cinch (belt), Spiteful Gauntlets; there reportedly also exist boots called Bloodfeint Sabatons; I’m not sure about wrists and shoulders). The same models are also used Some of these models are also used in the normal (level 63) version of the Amphitheatre of Karutonia (full plate: Bloodbrute Chestguard, Bloodbrute Legguards; heavy: Frostmaw Helm, Frostmaw Gauntlets, Frostmaw Boots, Frostmaw Vambraces). The helmet model is also reused as the Mask of the Master Gaoler, which drops from Norach + Surberec in Xibaluku since 4.1.

In terms of stats, the purple parts of the Red Ruin set are similar to e.g. Tiger heavy armor from Khitai, but with a bit less constitution (and some combat rating replaced by strength).

Bloodhunter assassin set

I was quite lucky with this set and completed it after opening only 15 purple and 14 blue caches on my assassin. On the character selection screen, it looks fairly unappealing:


Fortunately, in game it looks almost completely black instead. That’s much better and especially suitable for an assassin:


And it looks even better without the headpiece and the belt πŸ™‚


Pharaoh’s Guard social set

This set isn’t new either; it’s been available in the item shop for a long time, pretty much ever since the item shop was introduced. (Currently it doesn’t seem to be available individually but only as part of the “Hyborian Steel Style Pack”.) It’s a green social armor set with no level requirement; somewhat surprisingly, it consists of just 7 parts — everything except the belt. It drops from green and blue Acheronian caches.

In terms of appearance, it’s similar to other Stygian-themed sets, especially Stygian Deathcoil (ToS culture armor). In fact the legs, feet and hands are exactly the same in Stygian Deathcoil and in Pharaoh’s Guard. So if you don’t like the fact that Pharaoh’s Guard lacks a belt, you could use Stygian Deathcoil Belt and it would probably match the rest of Pharaoh’s Guard pretty well.


What do the new unchained sets look like?

Hell Walker (demo/necro): several parts of this set (shoulder, hands, wrists, legs, feet) are the same as in the Bloodseer’s set (HoX level 80 old-world dungeon set). The chest is the same as Catacomb Tunic, a level 59 blue item dropping from the Catacomb Stalker Queen in the Catacombs. The rest seems to be mostly in the style of cloth gear from Xibaluku.

Bloodhunter (sin): judging by the pictures in the testlive forum, this seems to be the same shape as the previous set but completely black. I don’t think I’ve seen items like that before.

Crimson Slaughter (HoX): judging by the pictures, it seems to look exactly the same as Bloodhunter.

Blood God (PoM/ToS): looks the same as the Crusader’s Abyss social armor set from the Amphitheatre unchained.

Death Master (barb): looks the same as the Abyssal Battle social armor set from the Amphitheatre unchained.

Blood Drinker (ranger): looks the same as the Acheronian Convoker social armor set from the Amphitheatre unchained.

Sanguine Disciple (BS): this is an interesting mixture of several earlier sets. Some parts are the same as the Blood Drinker / Acheronian Convoker set; a few parts, however, look as if you took the shape of the Doomsayer set (HoX PvP T1 armor) but the color of the Ashbone of Oblivion set (social armor from the Amphitheatre unchained). This is very easy to see on the chest, but also applies to the head.

Red Ruin (heavy): looks the same as full-plate armor from Xibaluku.

Fallen Empire (plate): looks the same as the Acheronian Keeper set (guardian culture armor).

Cloaks from the Demigod of Acheron

The Demigod of Acheron, the last boss in Caravan Raiders’ Hideout (unchained), drops one of four new cloaks.

Here’s the Abyssal Cloak of the Death Master (with melee DPS stats: 167 armor, 531 combat rtg, 62 hit rtg, 67 crit dmg rtg), though it seems to me that all four cloaks look very similar anyway.

Next, here’s the Abyssal Cape of the Fallen Empire (with tanking stats: 151 armor, 52 con, 30 hate inc rtg, 262 protection; it’s like taking Amra’s Pride and replacing hit rating and crit damage rating with hate increase rating).

And this is the Abyssal Cloak of the Hell Walker (33 con, 75 magic dmg, 41 hit rtg, 30 hate dec rtg, 56 crit dmg rtg):

Finally, here’s the Abyssal Cloak of Crimson Slaughter (28 str, 76 magic dmg (fire), 35 hate dec rtg, 60 crit dmg rtg, 178 combat rtg (fire)):

Considering how hard it is to kill that boss, I was expecting the cloaks to look more impressive and less faded. And it seems they all look more or less the same, with slight variations in color.

Accessories from the Excavators quest

I got the following beautiful bind-on-pickup purple cloak, Great Cloak of Blessed Winds (117 wis, 193 heal rtg, 45 hit rtg, 54 crit dmg rtg), on my ToS from a Mystical Excavator’s Kit (purple cache that you get as a quest reward from the excavators quest):

Given the stats, I would imagine that PoMs can also get it. The amount of heal rating is unusually high for a cloak; only the Cloak of Shivering Stars (from the Coils of Ubah Kan) is comparable (201 heal rtg), but has just 80 wisdom and no hit rating. The T4 cloak has only 72 heal rtg, but on the other hand it has 122 wis and an extra 20 magic damage. (Two of the legendary cloaks from the Portents quest will have still more heal rating: 227 on the BS legendary cloak and 425 on the non-DPS healer cloak.)

Judging by the dev’s post on the testlive forum, there is also a Bear Shaman cloak with the same style, but orange instead of white; as well as a dexterity necklace and a HoX ring.

Pets

The new caches from unchained dungeons also have a chance of dropping various pets. Here are some screenshots of the ones I’ve found so far:

Pet: Shredder

This is a hyena pet that dropped from a green cache. It’s about the same size as normal hyenas in Kheshatta.


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Mini-Pet: Demigod

When they say mini-pet, they aren’t joking. It’s intended to look like the Demigod of Acheron, the difficult final boss of Caravan Raiders’ Hideout, but in practice this also makes it look like a tiny chill crawler. It dropped from a blue cache.


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Occasionally, an even tinier humanoid figure spawns in front of it and starts worshipping it:


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The worshipper appears to be wearing the Hell Walker armor set (see above).

Pet: Living Statue

This pet looks like one of the Acheronian statues that come alive in the Halls of Eternal Frost (and is also the same size). It dropped from a blue cache.


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Pet: Scorpion Archer

I really like this pet. It’s at least as large as the Scorpion Archers in Kheshatta. For some of us it brings back uncomfortable memories of that time in Summer 2008 when one of the patches unintentionally buffed all archer mobs in the game, making the Scorpion Archers ridiculously overpowered πŸ™‚ It dropped from a purple cache. Occasionally it’s surrounded by a nice green particle, as you can see in the screenshot below:


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Mini-Pet: Forsaken Child of Yig

This pet dropped from a Mystical Excavator’s Kit, i.e. one of the purple caches that you get as a reward from the other new quest, “In the Service of the Excavators” (which requires you to clear Ardashir Fort, Sepulcher of the Wyrm, Coils of Ubah Kan and the Vile Nativity). As you can see, it’s basically a small skeletal serpentman.


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Mini-Pet: Un Nefer

This pet dropped from a purple cache (Mystical Acheronian Cache). He looks like a miniature Un Nefer from the Halls of Eternal Frost and has various spell-casting animations:


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Eventually he spawns two even tinier pets. Then he turns towards you, does the /rude emote and then they all stand there and stare at you πŸ˜›


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You can’t accuse him of being undergeared, however — he’s wearing the Filament of Nightmare (T3 crafted staff):


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Pet: Emperor Scorpion

This pet dropped from a green cache; the pet itself doesn’t seem to be bind-on-pickup either, so I guess you could even buy one on the trader. The description says it’s a “giant scorpion”, which in practice turns out to mean that it’s about the same size as the regular scorpion mobs in Kheshatta.


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Mini-Pet: Undead Guardian

Just like the scorpion, this one also dropped from a green cache and doesn’t seem to be bind-on-pickup. The description says that “his social skills are questionable at best”, and indeed he has various silly and rude emotes and animations, including the famous drunken piss emote:


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In fact this is pretty much the same behavior as the Corrupted Self pet from Xibaluku; just the model of the pet is different (and smaller), and it wears different armor.

Mini-Pet: Queen Cao-Polyphya

This pet dropped from a Mystical Excavator’s Kit.


Note: the pet is the ugly malevolent hag on the left,
not the beautiful guardian on the right πŸ˜› (Click to enlarge.)

She does various emotes and has a couple of magic-looking animations:


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Mini-Pet: Acheronian Raider

This pet dropped from a green cache. He doesn’t seem to do anything particularly interesting, just a few emotes such as /track and /poundchest.


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Mini-Pet: Deep Walker

This pet dropped from a Mystical Excavator’s Kit. It’s one of the adds from the General Arman fight in Ardashir Fort. It doesn’t do anything interesting, except turning left and right every now and then in a vaguely paranoid way.


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Mini-Pet: Acheronian Bloodletter

This pet dropped from a blue cache and is really small, barely reaching up to your hips. She wears the Hell Walker armor set, wields a sword or maybe a large dagger, and has two or three different combo animations.


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She also has a long worshipping animation:

Pet: Atlantean Shade

This pet (which dropped from a Mystical Excavator’s Kit) looks like the Atlantean ghosts in the Threshold of Divinity. It also does more or less the same emotes as they — /poundchest, /cheer, /laughheartily and several others. The green-on-white assassin-style set he’s wearing is, as far as I know, not available to players, but the red-on-white and red-on-black versions are. He always carries a polearm, which seems to be chosen randomly when you spawn him: it can be either the T1/T2 guardian polearm or the T1/T2 ToS polearm.


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A bit of statistics

I haven’t really opened enough caches yet to be able to collect any reliable statistics; and besides, it’s possible that some of the drop rates were changed in the 4.1.5 patch. But we can at least have a rough idea of what things can drop from what kinds of caches.

Unopened Chest (green)

This cache can drop one or two of the following things:

What How many times it dropped
3 Daggamalt

21
3 Sweetpressed Haste

15
3 Moonspill

17
Manual of Instruction [2000 Mastery AA XP]

21
Manual of Discipline [10000 Mastery AA XP]

10
Flask of Completion [20000 Mastery AA XP]

2
2 Ta Neheh Leaf Elixir

4
2 Kingsmight Ale

5
money (1–5 silver)

34
an old-world level 80 blue BoE item (not from one of the level 70–80 sets); e.g. I got a Freestrider Tasset and a Deathvigil Tunic

2
Pet: Shredder

1

When we say that two of these things can drop, they can be the same thing twice, so you might get e.g. 6 Daggamalt from one chest. The table above shows 132 drops from opening 117 caches, so a double drop occurred in 15 caches.

It seems that food drops take your class into account, but potions don’t: my guardian sometimes gets Moonspill (mana potion), but never Bloodpurple Ale (mana food).

I guess that other pets besides the Shredder are also possible, but they haven’t dropped for me yet.

It would be interesting to learn more about the distribution of the amount of money that can drop from these caches, but this is complicated by the fact that if the cache decides to drop two things, and both of those things happen to be money, the game will show you just the total amount and not each individual drop. So what we would expect to observe in our data is really a mixture of two uniform distributions: one for regular money drops and one (with a smaller probability) for double drops. It is well known that many money drops in the game follow a uniform distribution of the form [a, 3a]; however, this can’t be the case here because the lowest money drop I’ve seen from these caches was 1.0062 silver, and on the other hand I once got 3 Daggamalt + 3.6016 silver from the same cache, so a regular (i.e. non-double) drop can clearly go at least up to 3.606 silver. What is more, if an individual drop can be up to 3.6 silver, you’d expect a double drop to go up to 7.2 silver, but the highest drop I’ve ever seen was 4.9216 silver. Indeed the distribution of money drops I’ve seen so far doesn’t look like a mixture of two uniform distributions, but like a single uniform distribution on the range from 1 to 5 silver. But I have just 34 data points so far, so it’s hard to be really sure about anything.

Acheronian Cache (blue)

Here are the results after opening 56 blue caches on my guardian. Again each cache can drop 1 or 2 of the following:

What How many times it dropped
money (10–46 silver)

3
Food:

2 Ta Neheh Leaf Elixir

8
2 Kingsmight Ale

1
Green armor:

Pharaoh’s Guard Gloves

1
Pharaoh’s Guard Goldmail

1
Pharaoh’s Guard Helm

2
Pharaoh’s Guard Shenti

1
Pharaoh’s Guard Sleevelets

1
Blue armor:

Belt of Red Ruin

3
Belt of the Fallen Empire

3
Greaves of Red Ruin [feet]

4
Greaves of the Fallen Empire

4
Rerebrace of Red Ruin [shoulder]

6
Rerebrace of the Fallen Empire

7
Tasset of Red Ruin [legs]

8
Tasset of the Fallen Empire

8
Purple armor:

Vambraces of the Fallen Empire [wrist]

1
Buffs:

Elixir of Guile [73 crit rtg]

4
Elixir of Invigorative Rejuvenation [15 nat stam regen]

3
Elixir of Precision [73 hit rtg]

2
Refined Elixir of Precision [183 hit rtg]

1
Pets:

Mini-Pet: Demigod

1
Pet: Living Statue

1

Oddly, I’ve never seen a case of a double food drop, e.g. getting 4 Ta Neheh Leaf Elixir or something like that. I also never saw a double drop of blue/purple armor pieces, though I did see a green + blue armor drop or 2 green armor drops. I guess that with more data, the missing combinations might also show up. It’s also very odd that stamina food is so rare compared to HP food.

The Pharaoh’s Guard is a green social set that is also available in the item shop — it’s been available there pretty much ever since the item shop was introduced. Currently it doesn’t seem to be available individually but only as a part of the ‘Hyborian Steel Style Pack’ (which includes two other social sets). It seems to consist of seven parts: in addition to the five in my above table, there are also boots and shoulders. (In fact I got the boots from a blue cache on my ToS.) The armor set has a Stygian style and is somewhat similar to ToS culture armor (Stygian Deathcoil; in fact the legs appear to be completely identical).

For the money drops, we have far too little data to say anything concrete. I saw 3 money drops on my guardian: 10.8027 s, 10.4923 s and 46.0483 s; the first two dropped together with an armor piece, while the third one dropped by itself so maybe it’s intended as a double drop. I also saw one drop of 34.5042 s on my ToS.

The Elixirs are part of the same system that has been in the game for a long time. They are all 4-hour buffs and persist through death; the Refined ones are blue instead of green and give you twice the stat modifier of their green counterpart.

Probably there are more pets and purple armor drops than shown in the above table; I’ll update it as I get more data.

Mystical Acheronian Cache (purple)

Here are the results after opening 36 purple caches on my guardian. Each cache can drop 1 or 2 of the following:

What How many times it dropped
Blue potions:

5 Potent Daggamalt

4
5 Dire Sweetpressed Haste

3
Purple armor:

Cuirass of the Fallen Empire [chest]

1
Gauntlets of the Fallen Empire

1
Helm of the Fallen Empire

2
Mask of Red Ruin

1
Vambraces of the Fallen Empire [wrist]

3
Other purple gear:

Ring of Ancient Python

1
Claw of the Death Master

1
Buffs:

Refined Elixir of Guile [183 crit rtg]

1
Refined Elixir of Invigorative Rejuvenation [30 nat stam regen]

1
Refined Philtre of Constitution [+5% con]

11
Refined Philtre of Strength [+10% str]

10
Other:

Minor Elixir of Resurgence [self-rez buff]

3
Phial of Tranquility [1 Expertise point]

2
Pet: Scorpion Archer

1

I’ll never understand how they imagine an elixir that gives you 30 stamina every four seconds — it would still be utterly worthless at twenty times the amount — to be equivalent to one that increases your critical chance by 5%…

The Ring of Ancient Python is a nice protection ring (52 con, 52 hit rtg, 267 protection) which, as far as I know, can drop pretty much for any class. It uses the same model as Devourer’s Ring of the Abyss (a protection ring from the Amphitheatre of Karutonia).

The Claw of the Death Master is a decent one-handed blunt (116.1 dps, 86 str, 47 hit rtg, 47 crit rtg, 55 crit dmg rtg). Judging by the name, it seems to be intended as a DPS-oriented weapon (the Death Master is also the name of the barbarian light armor set, see above), but it would also be good for a tank. Just like the ring, this blunt weapon also reuses an old model: identical looking weapons include Bonemaim (level 78 old-world BoE blue) and the Gargantuan Fist (which used to drop from the Gargant in the old Scorpion Cave; that boss is gone in 4.1.4 but presumably the weapon still drops from one of the bosses in the normal version of the dungeon).

See also the previously mentioned forum thread for other weapons and accessories that can drop from these caches, but note that the stats are now a bit different than what is shown on the old screenshots there.

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